Free will as endowed by an omnipotent being is illogical. However, monotheists like Christians and Muslims don’t fully understand logic, so they continue to argue that free will justifies the unfairness and suffering we find in our world.
– by @GodsAutopsyCom
God, free will and power…
If your god has ‘all power’ and/or ‘omnipotence’, it is therefore logically impossible for it to give away any of that power and remain omnipotent. To the best of my understanding, an omnipotent god cannot share a reality with other potent beings (beings who can choose freely). Omniscience is also a subset of omnipotence, as the power to do all things contains the power to know all things.
Can you ever do a thing that God doesn’t allow?
If a sentient being can make a decision independent of his creator, then the being is, by definition, somewhat autonomous. If a being can really be autonomous, then he can possibly surprise or otherwise disrupt the plans or will of his master. If God can do absolutely anything, then he cannot possibly be surprised, interrupted, overpowered or otherwise made to do anything he doesn’t want to do. So the idea that a god could dislike or fight evil (or fight anything) is impossible. All events in the universe must therefore be part of or subject to the omnipotent creator’s will and wishes. Every rape, every murder, every stoning and every disease are all part of his plan, all approved by and enjoyed by the god who cannot be forced to do anything he doesn’t want to do. If there is an omnipotent god, then every evil act is just God doing evil to himself for personal amusement.
Monotheist v.s. an Atheist:
Monotheist: But God loved us so much that he suffers for us, he willingly suffers
Atheist: Why would god suffer for human pain and disease if he could bypass mortality and create man in paradise?
Monotheist: Because he wants to give us free will to choose violence and evil for ourselves.
Atheist: He knows what we will choose, therefore he could stop us anytime. If God knows the script, it’s as if he wrote it, we can’t deviate from it, therefore our actions are not our own, we would be puppets.
Monotheist: No, because God gives us the choice to choose him on our own, and then let’s us into heaven because of that choice.
Atheist: But, I don’t believe in him, so how can I choose?
Monotheist: Everybody believes in him! / You’re in denial! / You’ll get the chance to choose after you’re dead! / Just use Pascal’s wager!
Atheist: I can’t actually live by Pascal’s wager if I don’t believe in it.
Monotheist: Yes, you can, you have no choice, don’t gamble. You’ll be sorry if you take the chance. After all, if you reject God, he will punish you for eternity.
Atheist: I must choose option 1: worship God for eternity, or option 2: suffer for eternity. I’m incapable of choosing option 2 because the perfect torture for eternity is in fact perfectly horrible. Lesser torture would be to worship a God I don’t respect. Both are torture! Option 1 is impossible to turn down. Looks like there’s no free will after all.
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